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badstarScout's Admission Of Being Wiccan Leads To Turmoil
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This disturbs me more than anything:
The Buchheims said Doherty told them that if Cody had lied about his faith, the boys could have remained with no problem.
So...if he had violated one of the ten commandments, and claimed to be Christian, it would have been just hunky-dory? There are SO many things wrong with that. I *think* it also violates the Boy Scout Law?
Later it say this of the national organization:
Although there are no troops or packs sponsored by Wiccan circles, the national office informed Clement that any boy who believes there is a God -- not just the Christian God -- can live up to the creed.
And this about the church:
"Our church's motto is to open our hearts, minds and doors to everyone because we all have to come to an understanding of God on our own -- these boys should be no different," District Superintendent Doug Ezell said. "We are just a sponsor for the troop, so if the Boy Scouts do not have a problem with them being there, we don't."
I don't agree with the Boy Scouts stance on not allowing membership if one is atheist or gay. But it's a private organization, so that's their perogative. I'm glad that the Girl Scouts have taken a more inclusive position. But they met the requirements, and the Boy Scouts National Office had no problem with the two brothers being there, and the church that sponsored the troop was okay with it. If you read the article, it tells, ironically how the troop started out:
Doherty said Troop 71 began as a half-Baptist/half-Pentecostal troop led by a Jewish man.
Although the children had no problems with one another, the parents wanted the troop separated because of religious beliefs, Doherty said. When Doherty needed a charter for his Cub Scout troop, the troop leader transferred the charter and ferried his children to Anacoco from Pitkin for years to avoid the split.
The boys were allowed back in, but decided not to return after all, and the family is starting a Spiral Scouts troop.
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pytheos pointed out...if you read the story, some of you may find it amusing and ironic that the church pastor's name is Llewelyn :-P
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This disturbs me more than anything:
The Buchheims said Doherty told them that if Cody had lied about his faith, the boys could have remained with no problem.
So...if he had violated one of the ten commandments, and claimed to be Christian, it would have been just hunky-dory? There are SO many things wrong with that. I *think* it also violates the Boy Scout Law?
Later it say this of the national organization:
Although there are no troops or packs sponsored by Wiccan circles, the national office informed Clement that any boy who believes there is a God -- not just the Christian God -- can live up to the creed.
And this about the church:
"Our church's motto is to open our hearts, minds and doors to everyone because we all have to come to an understanding of God on our own -- these boys should be no different," District Superintendent Doug Ezell said. "We are just a sponsor for the troop, so if the Boy Scouts do not have a problem with them being there, we don't."
I don't agree with the Boy Scouts stance on not allowing membership if one is atheist or gay. But it's a private organization, so that's their perogative. I'm glad that the Girl Scouts have taken a more inclusive position. But they met the requirements, and the Boy Scouts National Office had no problem with the two brothers being there, and the church that sponsored the troop was okay with it. If you read the article, it tells, ironically how the troop started out:
Doherty said Troop 71 began as a half-Baptist/half-Pentecostal troop led by a Jewish man.
Although the children had no problems with one another, the parents wanted the troop separated because of religious beliefs, Doherty said. When Doherty needed a charter for his Cub Scout troop, the troop leader transferred the charter and ferried his children to Anacoco from Pitkin for years to avoid the split.
The boys were allowed back in, but decided not to return after all, and the family is starting a Spiral Scouts troop.
edit: I forgot to mention, and
pytheos pointed out...if you read the story, some of you may find it amusing and ironic that the church pastor's name is Llewelyn :-P
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Re: not trying to start an argument, but....
Date: 2006-05-10 08:41 pm (UTC)one word:
huh??????
Re: not trying to start an argument, but....
Date: 2006-05-10 08:46 pm (UTC)Re: not trying to start an argument, but....
Date: 2006-05-10 09:00 pm (UTC)extension of civilixzation...ummmmm? a not-entirely-universal aspect of civilization maybe? I'm not sure I'd use the word "extension", because that makes it sound like some satellite subset.
but to get back to the original statement...
Humans are, among various other things, dishonest. I don't believe that that makes it *right* to be dishonest...you could (reasonably rightly) argue that that is simply a widely-held, subjective viewpoint.
I think that most people...at least in theory don't think that it's right to lie.
what I find disturbing is that a branch of an organization that claims to be so upstanding would condone dishonesty in reference to another institution that has a specific commandment saying "don't do that" but when one of it's members professes to meeting one of the organization's established requirements, one of the lower paeaons within the hierarchy says that there would have been no probem if they lied.
In far fewer words: Yes, I do find it disturbing that they would be encouraged to lie.