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So the poem from my last post? Who knew it would generate such entertaining reactions?

Posted this poem to a couple of email lists, including one that is devoted to Apollo. Preceding the poem, I explained that it was my interpretation of part of a little-known myth, and I provided a link to the text of that myth, as written in an ode by Pindar. As I said, preceding.

Came home from work this morning and hopped online to find this, er, emotional response (yes, he's serious.):

I wish I had not read this so early in the morning because I am unable to control how upset your poetry has made me. If you were to ever leave a demigod alone in a field I should hope that Hera and Apollo would strike you down as you so deserve by these thoughts. You say you dont know that a demigod would even survive when you leave it in a field. I'm sorry, but you have made me quite ill with that. This would be like Mary leaving Jesus to fend for himself in the stables or something. When in the mythos do any demigods get left to die? Selfish wench. This poem is all selfish undeserving of the gods wench filled horridities! thumbs down.


Following that was yet another response:

i'd like to add, that in Hellenism, the general idea is that the Gods cannot reveal their true selves to us in physical form, as is detailed in the story of Dionysos birth, when his mother was killed when Hera convinced her that she had to see Zeus true form to believe he was who he said he was. She instantly was burned to nothingness. Further, how can you say that you would not love him?

"How could I not have loved the beautiful god"

???

"A son I would have loved, but for shame cannot keep."

I agree with Syd, how could you feel shame for giving birth to a demi-god, what could be more joyous, especially for a Hellenist.

"In this field of violets, surrounded by honeybees, I'll lay him down."

Isn't Pan the God of bees? Isn't that kinda bizarre to leave a child in a swarm of bees? Especially when its a demi god? Sounds like a good way to piss off the Gods if you ask me.


Okay....clearly someone missed the part about it being from a myth and the link to the original story (which, by the way, I didn't stray far from, only wrote from a first person perspective and took the liberties of giving this nymph a few thoughts of her own) and jumped to the conclusion that Apollo walked bodily into my room, had his way with me and got me knocked up. Additionally, I bore the child and then took him to a nice patch of wilderness and plunked him down in a field and let bees eat him, and walked away.

Later, when I posted to "clarify" that I was simply retelling part of a myth, and cited the entire ode containing the story- pertinent bits highlighted, I got a response from the second guy admitting his mistake...

But the first guy? Flat out said that he completely skipped the part where I said t was a myth and provided the link to the myth,"apologized slightly" for the critique, but still basically said that I deserved it for such "horrific horridities" that have spewed forth from my fingertips.

I asked him if he's now insulting Pindar's ghost thusly for telling the story in the first place.

Dude, I don't really give a rip if you don't like my poetry, but I think we've taken this one a wee bit far.

Of course, I think it's hilarious that these two guys think I'm so special as to have gotten knocked up by Apollo and killed his kid.

Date: 2009-03-31 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friggasgirl.livejournal.com
Isn't Pan the God of bees? .

Pan seems to be an interesting god in regard to that. He's associated with Dionysus, obviously, and in some myths taught beekeeping to man. I've read that some scholars believe that Aristeaus was actually a Proto-Dionysus in some areas. Since the child would have been Aristeaus' step sibling the bees would probably not hurt the child which was pretty blunt in the myth (But by the will of heaven there came to nourish him, with gentle care, the sweet and harmless venom of the bees) Just got me thinkin' is all. (LOL!)

I guess one should actually read the story, shouldn't they.

Now, in regard to those morons? I enjoyed the bit where you asked him if he was insulting Pindar's ghost. It's a beautiful and tragic myth. I never knew about it before and I'm glad you enlightened me.
Edited Date: 2009-03-31 04:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-01 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
I've found an interesting article analyzing the linguistics and part of it discusses how the bees are all indicative of divine intervention to keep the baby alive.

It also goes on at length about te use of "violet" as a descriptor of Evadne's and Iamus's hair. (Interesting, but baffling that there is so much into it)

Date: 2009-03-31 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erl-queen.livejournal.com
Wow. The stupid, it burns. If this is the same list I left several months ago because it was mostly not about Apollon anymore anyway, I'm not really surprised. Actually, I'm not really surprised either way, but maybe that's just the cynical misanthrope in me coming out. Still, sad that they couldn't even bother to read what you wrote before reacting.

Date: 2009-03-31 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuego.livejournal.com
Yes, yes, this is KA.

Date: 2009-03-31 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erl-queen.livejournal.com
Wow. It's sunk even further since I left. A pity, as the idea had such great potential. But letting anyone and everyone on and broadening the topics too much created something quite unpleasant IMO. Certainly it didn't seem to be about worshipping Apollon anymore. I think this is indicative of what's happened to the list as a whole. :(

Date: 2009-03-31 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eternalhearts.livejournal.com
You HAVE to PM me with who these jackasses are!!

Date: 2009-03-31 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droops.livejournal.com
It hurts to read those comments. The term 'Fundie Hellenics' comes to mind.
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Date: 2009-03-31 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chironcentaur.livejournal.com
I still want to believe that, and I actually saw this whole stupid thing. Still seems very determined to paint her as a horrible person for having written this, now I guess she clearly finds babies being killed really entertaining.

Date: 2009-03-31 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neowiccan.livejournal.com
i've gotta know. i'm no mail on that list and want to stay that way, so PLEASE don't make me go there to see!
khairete
suz

Date: 2009-03-31 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neowiccan.livejournal.com
okay, i couldn't resist, i went and peeked. that guy is such an idiot. i mean, genuinely stupid. he was one of the prompts to go no-mail there.
i think you handled him with remarkable aplomb.
khairete
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