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You know it really frustrates me to no end to see anything that might be a "positive value"- love your neighbor, protect children from harm, etc referrred to as "christian values" and then if you happen to comment to that extent, you're on a soapbox, or you have an axe to grind.

You'd be frustrated too, if all the things that you agreed were good, were commonly referred to as being held in monopoly by a single religion other than your own.

note...this isn't in reference to livejournal, so don't go looking through my friends list for posts to bitch at.

edit: what I actually intended to be the point of my post, but didn't realy word it as to indicate it cleary was the fact that so often, if someone says somethign about this, then they're automatically assumed to be up on a soapbox or had an axe to grind. As for the instance in question, I honestly had never even metntioned the idea of referring to any positive values exclusively as Christian, a I had done at the time was to ask another poster to clarify something that she had said...and I made it clear that I was asking for clarification of somehting BEFORE I posted anything in response. I literally said "Before I post in response, I'd like to ask you to clarify what you mean by....Because depending on you answer, I may or may not have somehting to say."

Now the person in question did clarify...and acknowledged that what she said was not necessarily the best way to put it, and everyhtign was find in talking to her, but a few other posters just jumped in before I said anything and started on about how some people just can't resisting grinding the axe every chance they get. What annoyed me most was that this is a topic that I have NEVER mentioned in that particular forum, and the ones who made those comments, were a couple of the most frequent responders to other things that I HAVE posted.

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really, i think if any praying is going to be done before any sort of governmental meetings, it should be strictly between the individual and whatever entity/ies they're praying to. but if there must be prayers in that situation it should be non-specific in whose name is being prayed...and my reasoning for thinking this- even beyond holding one religion over others- is that in this setting, you're essentially praying on behalf of everyone in he room.

one thing that is not generally mentioned in news articles about that case is that this all started when Wynne was barred from speaking at a town council meeting because she stepped out of the room while the prayer was said- and she was TOLD by someone on the council that she should do this if she didn't want to be part of the prayer. She also wanted to be one of the people on the roster to periodically offer a prayer...but was barred because she was of a non-abrahamic religion. As it happened, she wanted to offer a non-sectarian prayer, but was barred even frm that.