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Nabbed from fervid_dryfire on the Battle Hymn Of The Repiblic

Blasphemy in Song

I never knew that the song was that long...or that graphic. Honestly I don't think I ever knew more than the first two maybe threew lines of the song. I leared it in first or second grade- but only the chorus, the "Glory glory halleluja" part...I forget why, but for several years I thought it was about Abraham Lincoln. And we were never told the title of the song.

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Very interesting . . .

[pagandenma.livejournal.com]

and I LOVE Twain's pardoy of it. Gods, the man was acerbic, wasn't he?

[marilyth.livejournal.com]

The credibility of this individual lies with a few of the thoughts he has...


The MYTHS of...

Slavery
Civil War


Um, yeah, ok...

[fuego.livejournal.com]

hmm...I missed that, I'll have to reread. I was fading pretty fast when I posted last night.

[marilyth.livejournal.com]

Just one of those crackpots that doesn't think that certain events of genocide & slavery ever happened. Probably thinks it's a big govt conspiracy. What's funny is that Unitarianism is a recognized religion, and many folks are Christians, they just are tolerant of "allowing" others of other beliefs within the denomination.

Reminds me that I need to find a church in this area. Hmmmm... :)

[fuego.livejournal.com]

I looked for the context of which you were referring and found this:

This is the great myth of the Civil War, and would be news to Abraham Lincoln since he maintained that freeing the slaves was not what his war was about. In an August 22, 1862, letter to Horace Greeley, the editor of the New York Tribune, Lincoln explained:

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union.

Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation freed no one since not only did it only apply to slaves in the states that were in rebellion against the United States, where the U.S. government had no authority, but it specifically exempted all the territory that was occupied by Union armies, where the U.S. government had authority. The fact that many churches today in the Deep South sing the "Battle Hymn" shows just how strong this myth has taken hold. For the deflating of more myths of the Civil War, see my article on slavery myths and Thomas DiLorenzo’s article on Lincoln myths.

in speaking of "the myth of the civil war", the writer is not saying that the civil war or slavery were myths, but that it is a myth that the civil war was fought for the purpose of bringing slavery to an end.

[marilyth.livejournal.com]

I didn't read through the "explanation" regarding the myths. Simply indicating that he finds them myths (without specific explanation - without having to link to it) was interesting to me.

Since I wasn't alive during the Civil War, and because I grew up in a Union state, I learned more about the "union" side of the war. When I moved to Texas I learned a different side "Confederate." What a concept, two sides to the story. Heh...

Anyway, the lyrics are interesting to say the least! I couldn't get the song we sang to the tune in Girl Scouts out of my head all day.... heh

[fuego.livejournal.com]

Ah...see, I grew up in PA, but had a couple of history teachers who were VERY specific about teaching us what the myths and popular beliefs were verus what actually happened and why it happened. Which is at least part of the reason that I'm very adamant about people needing to know what is myth and what is fact.

[marilyth.livejournal.com]

It's a good idea. I never had a notion until I was an adult that history was told from different views. WW2 is told differently by the Germans/Japanese/etc. What a concept.

Ok, it's dinnertime :)

[tantric-pixie.livejournal.com]

Both were excellent reads and based on the facts of history. Neither were symapthetic to slavery or the South, either, nor do they deny that slavery existed. They merely point out the myths that people believe about slavery during that time and Lincoln.

[sunneyone.livejournal.com]

well, it looks like the guy that wrote that article was trying to be a little inflammatory.